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Showing posts with label John Ramsdell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label John Ramsdell. Show all posts

Monday, March 31, 2014

More Ramsdell

This whole John Ramsdell thing is growing a bit in esteem, it seems.  Still nothing from the team, but the Observer at least tweeted it when shown.

Nonetheless, outside the initial impact, it does, of course, give contingency to Mike Shula.  That's not to say that the team intends to create some level of planned obsolescence with Shula, they want to give him the tools to succeed.

Coincidentally, if Shula doesn't quite fit, they'll have an intact staff and an obvious heir to the job.

It's very much the same situation as Steve Wilks, a favorite of this blog who worked wonders with scraps (some of which are now very highly paid scraps).  Wilks was, at the very least, very highly sought by Carolina, and rumors had him not as DBs coach in 2011 when sought, but DC.  Wilks wasn't allowed to leave, Sean McDermott was literally handed to Rivera by Andy Reid (that move, of course, doesn't get quite enough props for Reid being classy about it), they stuff Ron Meeks in there for a year (coincidentally, to do his worst coaching job in years).

I have no doubt that Rivera wanted McDermott to work, just as he undoubtedly would've preferred Rob Chudzinski stay. But, he had Shula on deck.

So, is Ramsdell on deck?

As it is, the mysterious "Senior Offensive Assistant" is not third tier assistant role.  Ramsdell won't exactly be Proehl's lackey, learning the ropes.  That's a special operations role, one that gives him a separate tie to Shula from the position coaches.

It'll be interesting.  I, for one, don't want Shula to fail, and I don't think anyone does.  But confidence wavers, and it's nice to see an on-staff choice for succession should it be required.   Just as they have with Wilks.  In the meantime, Shula has a veteran to advise him, to bounce ideas off, to help him succeed.


I'd neglected to notice on first sight that Ramsdell, who I identified with the Rams and Chargers, had Rams ties here.  John Matsko was the line coach on the Greatest Show on Turf; Ramsdell its QBs coach.  WRs coach Ricky Proehl, of course, was a slot receiver there for five years.  Those teams, like the Chargers teams (where he worked with Rivera, Wilks, Chudzinski, and so on), are Coryell.



Now, as far as the staff goes, it's hard to say that any further change will happen.  I do prefer they hire another intern-type coach for an Assistant WR coach role (remember, in '11, they had Fred Graves and Ricky Proehl coaching WRs, and Scott Turner was a defacto WR coach too, as offensive assistant).  I still believe in an assistant DBs coach role (and far as I can tell, Bobby Babich - who was with the team '11-12, and then assistant DBs with Chud in the Browns debacle - is available again) under Wilks, and the last two years have been the first in forever I can't remember the team having two DBs coaches.  Who knows, they might have signed one or the other, and no one's noticed yet.

Otherwise, that closes the book on the staff portion of the 2014 Panthers (though, post-playoff loss, Rivera said no staff changes would be made, and here we are, having added a 20+ year veteran in a mysterious new title).  If the team was creating new roles, consider that Chudzinski himself is now with Indy in a similar sounding "special assistant to the head coach" ambiguity.

Lance Taylor Gone - John Ramsdell In?

Carolina's not always incredible about how it announces assistants moving in and out.  For instance, Ricky Proehl moved from consultant to assistant WRs coach through the 2012 offseason - not that big a deal.  They never really mentioned assistant Bobby Babich as an assistant until he left for Cleveland.  They threw Passing Defense Coordinator on Steve Wilks' title after announcing him as a position coach.

So, I didn't know Assistant WRs coach Lance Taylor had left for Stanford (RBs coach).  Saw it on Ricky Proehl's twitter.  Figuring maybe they hired a new assistant, I looked at the roster of coaches, saw a new assistant strength coach I didn't notice, says he's been here since last year.  That's fairly boring.

But John Ramsdell?  That's massive.  There's no announcement whatsoever.

Ramsdell was a fixture on the Dick Vermiel/Mike Martz/Al Saunders offenses for the Rams (no relation [sorry]).  He was on the Norv Turner/Rob Chudzinski led Chargers.  He was, honestly, my first choice for OC here. Chudzinski was available, because he didn't have a contract.  I don't know if Rivera would've preferred one over the other.

Ramsdell provided the position coaching for Kurt Warner and Phillip Rivers when both hit it big.  He's not solely responsible, but it helps.  Ramsdell provides a veteran assistant on the passing game side to counter some of the heavy hitting pro experience in the running game at OL and RB coaching; he'll have to have a positive impact on the passing game, not unlike the bizarre addition of ace ST coach Bruce DeHaven helped Carolina's special teams.

That said, consider that Ramsdell was a part of the Greatest Show on Turf and yet under Turner, he and Chudzinski didn't have much say in making the Chargers a longball offense.  My suggestion that Ramsdell will help, should make the team better at what it wants to do, control the ball.

He's now on the team site, with no info behind it (so, no link there).  He brings a wealth of knowledge with quarterbacks and our system.  I'm excited for this move, if they ever get around to showing it.